by Alibaba Cloud · Qwen3.8 family · best for open-weight frontier agent for long-horizon coding and office work
Qwen3.8-Max is Alibaba Cloud's flagship model, announced on 2026-08-03 as "the most capable model in the Qwen family to date" and the first Qwen Max-class model with downloadable weights. It is a 2.4-trillion-parameter sparse mixture-of-experts model (95B active) with a 1M-token context window, 131,072-token output, text, image and video input, and tunable reasoning depth. Alibaba built it for multi-day autonomous coding and professional office work, and now recommends it as its "highest capability" model in place of Qwen3.7-Max. The sentence a buyer needs: Qwen3.8-Max is a frontier-class agent model at $2 / $6 per 1M tokens with open weights under a custom license, independently ranked second on the LMArena vision board and sixth on its web-development board, but it is slow (about 39 tokens/sec) and most of its launch numbers come from Alibaba's own testing.
reasoning_effort xhigh (default), medium or low, with preserve_thinking on by default; the API also offers a non-thinking mode| Benchmark | Score | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Humanity's Last Exam | 43.6% | qwen.ai 2026-08-03T00:00:00.000Z |
| LMArena Elo | 1481 | lmarena.ai 2026-09-13T00:00:00.000Z |
| GPQA Diamond | 92.6% | qwen.ai 2026-08-03T00:00:00.000Z |
| Terminal-Bench | 86.6% | qwen.ai 2026-08-03T00:00:00.000Z |
| MRCR Long Context | 92.9% | qwen.ai 2026-08-03T00:00:00.000Z |
| LMArena Coding Elo | 1522 | lmarena.ai 2026-09-13T00:00:00.000Z |
| Artificial Analysis Index | 40 | artificialanalysis.ai 2026-09-21T00:00:00.000Z |
Six personas, six verdicts — the same panel that reviews every product on TopReviewed.
“A frontier-class agent at $2/$6 with weights you can walk away with, but read the license and the governance gaps before signing up.”
Qwen3.8-Max removes the biggest objection to Qwen3.7-Max: lock-in. The same model can run on Alibaba's API, on six third-party hosts at the same price, or in your own data centre, and independent boards confirm it sits with GPT-5.6 Sol and Kimi K3 on quality. What remains is governance: no published compliance attestations, no stated position on training with API inputs, and inference that Global-scope regions may schedule anywhere. The license is permissive for most enterprises but binds any group above US$50M revenue that runs a model API or an AI coding or office assistant. Roadmap confidence is high given Alibaba's release cadence.
“Alibaba open-sourced its flagship and kept vision, speed modes and a revenue gate for itself, which is open-core executed at 2.4T scale.”
Qwen3.7-Max tested a closed flagship; Qwen3.8-Max reverses course and releases the Max-class language model while keeping the multimodal and managed features on Qwen Cloud. That positions Alibaba against Moonshot's Kimi K3 and Z.ai's GLM-5.3 in the open-weight frontier race, and against Western flagships on price. The license shows where Alibaba expects competition: it names Model-as-a-Service and AI coding or office assistants, the exact markets for Qoder and QwenWork. The differentiator is vision; no other open-weight family ranks near the top of LMArena's vision board. The weakness is speed, where Western flagships and its own predecessor are several times faster.
“$2 in and $6 out undercuts every Western flagship, but verbose xhigh reasoning and no batch discount give back part of the saving.”
The rate card is 20% below Qwen3.7-Max and well below Claude Sonnet 5 ($2/$10), Kimi K3 ($3/$15) and GPT-5.6 Sol ($4/$20 promotional). Explicit cache reads at $0.17 make repeated long contexts cheap, and a 1M-token free quota covers evaluation. Two things narrow the gap: the model is verbose (170M output tokens on Artificial Analysis's index, more than Qwen3.7-Max's 120M), and International and Global endpoints offer no batch discount, which only Beijing provides at 50%. GLM-5.3 and DeepSeek V4 Pro stay cheaper per token. Self-hosting has no per-token saving at typical volume, because third-party hosts charge the same $2/$6.
“Drops into Claude Code or Codex with one base URL and holds a plan for hours, but at 39 tokens a second you design around the wait.”
Integration is easy: OpenAI Chat Completions, OpenAI Responses and Anthropic-compatible endpoints, so Claude Code, Codex, OpenClaw and Qwen Code work with an environment-variable change. Function calling, parallel tool calls, structured outputs, prefix completion and built-in web, code-interpreter and PDF tools are all supported, and dated snapshots allow pinning. reasoning_effort and preserve_thinking give real control over depth. The friction is speed: 39 tokens/sec and 3 seconds to first token mean long agent turns take minutes. Self-hosting needs terabyte-scale GPU memory even at 4-bit, and the downloaded model cannot see images or skip thinking.
“Reads screenshots and 200-page PDFs as well as anything available and writes careful answers, but the default xhigh effort tests your patience.”
Output quality is at the frontier: LMArena voters place it level with GPT-5.6 Sol on text and second only to Claude Fable 5 on vision, and the 1M window takes whole codebases or long reports in one go. English and Chinese are both first-class. The daily cost is waiting: at the default xhigh effort it thinks at length before answering and then streams at about 39 tokens/sec, so quick questions feel sluggish unless you lower the effort or turn thinking off. Qwen Studio offers it in a chat interface, but the full feature set lives in API tooling.
“Seven weeks in, the vendor table is marked on Alibaba's own harnesses; only arena rankings and one open-edition index run are independent.”
Treat most of the launch table with care. Many rows are Alibaba in-house benchmarks, SWE-bench Pro uses Alibaba's corrected task set, Terminal-Bench compares Qwen in Claude Code against competitors' best scores on other harnesses, and PaperBench is judged by another model. Independent data is thin but real: LMArena text, coding, web-development and vision boards, and one Artificial Analysis run on the text-only open edition, since the Qwen3.8-Max page itself is not available. Those confirm frontier-level quality, not the vendor margins. The open-weights headline also needs a footnote: the download is a different product from the API, without vision or non-thinking mode.
Long-horizon coding and office agents. Multi-hour or multi-day runs in Claude Code, Codex, Qwen Code or OpenClaw where throughput matters less than staying on task, at 40% of Kimi K3's output price.
Screen, document and video understanding. GUI automation, screenshot-to-code, chart-heavy financial filings and long video review, where its LMArena vision ranking and vendor document scores are the best in its price band.
Self-hosted frontier capability. Enterprises and sovereign-AI projects with multi-node GPU capacity that want a Max-class model inside their own perimeter, provided they are not a Model-as-a-Service or AI coding/office-assistant business above the license's revenue line.
Bilingual English/Chinese products that need one model across text, images and video with a 1M context.
The full research notes behind this review — verified against primary sources.
Qwen3.8-Max is built "upon the architectural foundation of Qwen 3.5" and is fully documented through its open-weight edition. The Hugging Face model card and config describe a 92-layer causal language model with hidden size 8192, arranged as 23 repeats of three Gated DeltaNet (linear attention) blocks followed by one Gated Attention block, each feeding a mixture-of-experts layer. Gated DeltaNet uses 128 value heads and 16 query/key heads at head dimension 128; Gated Attention uses 64 query heads and 4 key/value heads at head dimension 256, with rotary embeddings on 64 dimensions. Each MoE layer holds 512 experts and routes every token to 10 of them plus 1 shared expert (expert width 2048). The vocabulary is 248,320 tokens, and multi-token prediction was trained with multiple steps. The checkpoint holds 2,446,182,725,504 BF16 parameters (Alibaba rounds this to 2.4T) with about 95B active per token.
Native context is 262,144 tokens, extensible to 1,010,000; the API serves 1M by default. The API model adds vision input, a non-thinking mode and built-in tools on top of the open language model; Alibaba calls the vision "native" but does not document how the vision path is attached, and the downloadable weights carry no vision component. Training data volume, compute and knowledge cutoff are not published.
Coding (9.0): Alibaba reports Terminal-Bench 2.1 86.6 (behind GPT-5.6 Sol's 88.8, ahead of Claude Opus 4.8's 84.6), SWE-bench Pro 67.7 on its own corrected task set, PaperBench 93.0 and FrontierSWE 73.5, and shows a 16-day autonomous run that built the oh-my-cli project (265 commits, 127 PRs). Independent signal is strong on web development, where LMArena's code board puts it sixth (1671) and the 0902 snapshot fourth (1681), and middling on the text-coding category (1522, level with Claude Sonnet 5).
Reasoning (9.0): GPQA Diamond 92.6 and Humanity's Last Exam 43.6 without tools / 56.2 with tools, all vendor-reported and below Claude Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol on HLE. Artificial Analysis scores the open-weight edition 40 on Intelligence Index v4.3.2, fifth of 114 large open-weight models and 11 points above Qwen3.7-Max.
Math (8.5): no AIME, HMMT or MATH figure is published; the score rests on vendor visual-math and physics results (MathVision 95.2, HiPhO 90.0) and the reasoning results above.
Agentic (9.2): the release's centre of gravity. Vendor figures include OSWorld-Verified 86.1 (above Fable 5's 85.0), Toolathlon Verified 72.5, SkillsBench 70.2, CoWorkBench 74.8 and WideSearch 81.9, plus showcases of a five-day paper reproduction and roughly 330 sub-agents run from one conversation. Alibaba trained it with reinforcement learning across the QwenWork, Claude Code, Codex, OpenClaw and Hermes harnesses, so it behaves consistently inside third-party agent tools.
Long context (9.0): 1M tokens at one flat price, MRCR v2 8-needle at 256K of 92.9 (vendor) against 86.7 for Qwen3.7-Max, and LongBench v2 66.3.
Multilingual (9.0): a Qwen-family strength; bilingual English/Chinese evaluation throughout and the top MTVQA score (56.6) in Alibaba's multilingual text-in-image comparison. Languages count is not stated.
Vision (9.3) and documents/OCR (9.0): the strongest independently confirmed dimension. LMArena's vision board ranks Qwen3.8-Max second of all models (1302), behind only Claude Fable 5 and ahead of Claude Opus 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol. Vendor figures add MMMU-Pro 82.3, ScreenSpot Pro 84.5, VideoMME 90.4, OmniDocBench 1.5 92.1 and CharXiv reasoning 88.4, handling 200-page PDFs and 100-hour video.
Creative writing (8.0): LMArena's overall text board places it 22nd (1481), statistically level with GPT-5.6 Sol and GLM-5.3; Alibaba makes no creative-writing claim.
Instruction following (9.0): IFBench 82.8, the highest in Alibaba's table (GPT-5.6 Sol 72.7).
Function calling (9.0): function calling, structured outputs, parallel tool calls, prefix completion, and OpenAI Chat Completions, OpenAI Responses and Anthropic-compatible endpoints.
Safety calibration (7.5): automatic content moderation on every Qwen Cloud request, but no published safety framework or refusal data.
Real-time data (7.0): built-in web_search, web_extractor and web_fetch tools; web search is not available on the base model in the Frankfurt, Virginia, Tokyo and Hong Kong regions.
| Benchmark | Score | vs Predecessor | vs Top Competitor | Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 | 86.6 (vendor) | Qwen3.7-Max 74.5 | GPT-5.6 Sol (max) 88.8 | Qwen blog |
| SWE-bench Pro | 67.7 (vendor, corrected task set) | 60.6 | Claude Fable 5 80.0 | Qwen blog |
| PaperBench | 93.0 (vendor) | 64.8 | GPT-5.6 Sol 90.5 | Qwen blog |
| Toolathlon Verified | 72.5 (vendor) | 49.7 | Claude Fable 5 77.9 | Qwen blog |
| OSWorld-Verified | 86.1 (vendor) | no Qwen3.7-Max figure | Claude Fable 5 85.0 | Qwen blog |
| GPQA Diamond | 92.6 (vendor) | 92.4 | GPT-5.6 Sol 94.1 | Qwen blog |
| Humanity's Last Exam (no tools) | 43.6 (vendor) | 41.4 | Claude Fable 5 53.3 | Qwen blog |
| IFBench | 82.8 (vendor) | 79.1 | GPT-5.6 Sol 72.7 | Qwen blog |
| MRCR v2 256K (8-needle) | 92.9 (vendor) | 86.7 | GPT-5.6 Sol 93.8 | Qwen blog |
| MMMU-Pro | 82.3 (vendor) | no Qwen3.7-Max figure | GPT-5.6 Sol 83.0 | Qwen blog |
| Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index v4.3.2 | 40 (open-weight edition) | Qwen3.7-Max 29 | Kimi K3 (max) 44 | Artificial Analysis |
| LMArena Text Elo | 1481 ± 6 (22nd) | Qwen3.7-Max Preview 1473 | Kimi K3 max 1485, GPT-5.6 Sol 1484 (within the margin) | LMArena |
| LMArena Text Coding Elo | 1522 ± 9 | Qwen3.7-Max Preview 1525 ± 18 | Kimi K3 max 1538 | LMArena |
| LMArena Code (web development) | 1671 (6th); 0902 snapshot 1681 (4th) | Qwen3.7-Max 1517 | Kimi K3 max 1674 (5th) | LMArena |
| LMArena Vision | 1302 ± 8 (2nd) | no Qwen3.7-Max entry | Claude Fable 5 1310 (1st) | LMArena |
Vendor rows are from Alibaba's launch table (2026-08-03) and use Alibaba's own harnesses: Qwen ran Terminal-Bench 2.1 in Claude Code with a 5-hour timeout, while the competitor figures are the best published scores from other harnesses; SWE-bench Pro uses a corrected task set, so it does not match public leaderboards; PaperBench is judged by Claude Opus 4.6. Many other rows in the launch table (QwenSWEBench, CoWorkBench, RecreationBench, QwenVisualOffice and others) are Alibaba in-house benchmarks and are not listed here. Artificial Analysis measures the open-weight edition Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B (text-only, served on Alibaba's API); its Qwen3.8-Max page was not readable. LMArena figures are as of 2026-09-21.
Artificial Analysis measures the open-weight edition on Alibaba's API at 39.1 output tokens/sec with a 3.02-second time to first token, against a 77.9 tokens/sec median for large open-weight models. That is about one fifth of Qwen3.7-Max's 198.8 tokens/sec and close to Kimi K3 (42.8 tokens/sec). It is also verbose: 170M output tokens to run the Intelligence Index, against a 140M median. Interactive use at the default xhigh effort feels slow; drop reasoning_effort to medium or low, or turn thinking off on the API, for chat and IDE loops, and keep xhigh for background agent runs. Alibaba sells a faster serving mode, qwen3.8-max-prime, only in the China (Beijing) region at $3.301 / $9.902.
| Surface | Cost | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| API input | $2.00 / 1M tok | International (Singapore) and Qwen Cloud; flat to 1M tokens |
| API output | $6.00 / 1M tok | Reasoning tokens bill as output |
| Cached input | $0.17 / 1M tok explicit; $0.25 implicit | Explicit cache creation $2.50 / 1M |
| Other regions | $1.65 / $4.951 | Beijing, Frankfurt, Virginia, Tokyo, Hong Kong |
| Batch (in/out) | $0.825 / $2.475 | Beijing only; not offered in International or Global regions |
| Image / video input | billed as input tokens | No separate per-image price published |
| Free tier | 1M tokens | Singapore only, valid 90 days |
| Subscription | Qwen Cloud Token Plan | Individual and Team plans include Qwen3.8-Max; Alibaba advertises about 40% off pay-as-you-go |
| Rate limits | 15,000 RPM / 2,000,000 TPM | Qwen Cloud; Singapore and Beijing scale TPM with monthly spend; Global regions 30,000 RPM / 5,000,000 TPM |
| Open-weight hosts | $2.00 / $6.00 | Together, DeepInfra, Novita, SiliconFlow, Modal, Venice (via OpenRouter) |
At $2 / $6 it matches Grok 4.7, undercuts Claude Sonnet 5 ($2 / $10), Kimi K3 ($3 / $15) and GPT-5.6 Sol ($4 / $20 promotional), and costs more than GLM-5.3 ($1.40 / $4.40) and DeepSeek V4 Pro ($1.32 / $3.96 at peak). Verbosity erodes part of the headline advantage: Artificial Analysis spent $2,633 to run its index on the open-weight edition, against $2,277 for Qwen3.7-Max and $3,658 for Kimi K3.
Faster serving (Prime mode). Alibaba also sells qwen3.8-max-prime (listed 2026-09-23): the same model with the same capabilities and limits, served at 1.5–2× the standard output speed, at twice the standard price ($3.301 input / $9.902 output per 1M tokens in China (Beijing); $4 / $12 on OpenRouter). Prime has no batch discount or free quota. Source: Alibaba Cloud Model Studio pricing and Prime mode pages; OpenRouter qwen/qwen3.8-max-prime.
Managed API. Qwen Cloud and Alibaba Cloud Model Studio serve qwen3.8-max and the pinned snapshot qwen3.8-max-0902 in six regions: China (Beijing), Singapore, Germany (Frankfurt), US (Virginia), Japan (Tokyo) and Hong Kong. The region fixes where request data is stored; the deployment scope fixes where inference runs. Singapore uses International scope, and Frankfurt, Virginia, Tokyo and Hong Kong use Global scope, which schedules inference in a worldwide pool. Workspace-dedicated endpoints carry a 99.9% SLA and a 3,600-second timeout; the older DashScope domains stop receiving new features after 2026-09-30. OpenRouter routes qwen3.8-max to Alibaba only. No Western hyperscaler lists it.
Open weights. Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B is on Hugging Face under the Qwen3.8-Max License. It is text-only and always thinks; vision, non-thinking mode, the 1M default context and built-in tools stay API-only. Weight footprints: 4.9 TB in BF16, 2.5 TB in Qwen's official FP8 release, and 1.44 TB in NVIDIA's NVFP4 build, with AMD MXFP4 and Unsloth GGUF variants also published. That is multi-node or multi-GPU-server territory, not a single box. Qwen supplies vLLM, SGLang and TokenSpeed recipes and recommends temperature 1.0, top_p 0.95, top_k 20. Alibaba also serves the open edition as qwen3.8-2.4t-a95b at $2 / $6, and Together, DeepInfra, Novita, SiliconFlow, Modal and Venice host it at the same price.
License, exactly. The Qwen3.8-Max License grants MIT-style rights to use, copy, modify, distribute, sell, host and fine-tune, with two conditions. First, if the model or a derivative powers a commercial product or service with more than 100,000,000 monthly active users or more than US$20,000,000 in monthly revenue, the model name must be prominently displayed in that product's user interface. Second, if the licensee or any affiliate runs a Model-as-a-Service or AI Work Assistant business and the licensee's and affiliates' aggregate revenue exceeds US$50,000,000 in any consecutive 12 months, it must obtain a separate license from Qwen before any commercial use. Model-as-a-Service means giving third parties inference or fine-tuning access with meaningful control over inputs, parameters or training data; merely relaying requests to models hosted by others does not count. An AI Work Assistant is an independent product primarily for AI-assisted coding or office productivity (Qwen's examples: Qoder, QwenWork); single-purpose tools, assistants for other domains, and assistants that are a feature of a product with another primary purpose are excluded. The second condition does not apply to internal use that makes neither the model, its outputs nor its capabilities available to any third party. The revenue test counts total company revenue, not revenue from the AI business. License questions go to model-business@notice.qwencloud.com.
Qwen Cloud screens every API request's input and output with automatic content moderation, encrypts traffic with TLS 1.2+ and stored account data with AES-256, and offers audit and access logs. Alibaba publishes no safety framework, no refusal or hallucination figures, and no SOC 2, ISO 27001, HIPAA or GDPR attestation on the Qwen Cloud or Model Studio model pages. Its data-security page does not address whether API inputs are used for training, so confirm that in the service terms before sending regulated data. Global-scope regions store data in-region but may run inference elsewhere; teams with strict residency needs should use a region whose scope has fixed geographic boundaries, or self-host the open weights, which removes Alibaba from the data path entirely.
Qwen Cloud and Model Studio expose OpenAI Chat Completions, OpenAI Responses and Anthropic Messages protocols, so the OpenAI and Anthropic SDKs in Python and TypeScript work unchanged, alongside Alibaba's DashScope SDK. Alibaba documents setup for Claude Code, Codex, Qoder CLI, Qwen Code and OpenClaw, and its Token Plan subscription adds Cline, Cursor, OpenCode and Kilo CLI. Qwen-MM-Plugins, released with the model, adds image, video, memory and CAD/Blender tooling to existing agent frameworks. The open weights run on vLLM, SGLang and TokenSpeed, and NVIDIA, AMD, Unsloth and Red Hat have published quantized builds. Adoption is growing: about 55,000 monthly Hugging Face downloads for a 2.4T-parameter checkpoint, six third-party API hosts, and more than 16,000 LMArena text votes.
Yes, the language model is published as Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B on Hugging Face under the Qwen3.8-Max License. The download is text-only and always thinks. Vision input, non-thinking mode, the 1M default context and the built-in tools are only in the Qwen3.8-Max API.
Yes, with two conditions. Products with more than 100M monthly active users or more than US$20M monthly revenue must display the model name in their user interface. Groups above US$50M total revenue in any 12 months that run a Model-as-a-Service or AI coding/office-assistant business need a separate license from Qwen before any commercial use, unless the use is purely internal.
$2.00 input and $6.00 output per 1M tokens on Qwen Cloud and Model Studio International, flat to 1M tokens, with explicit cache reads at $0.17 and cache creation at $2.50. The Beijing and Global regions list $1.65 / $4.951, and only Beijing offers 50% batch pricing. Singapore accounts get a 1M-token free quota, valid 90 days from activation or model release.
Artificial Analysis measures about 39 tokens/sec and 3.0 seconds to first token on the open-weight edition, far slower than Qwen3.7-Max. Lower reasoning_effort to medium or low, or disable thinking on the API, for interactive use.
Yes, but only on multi-GPU clusters: the official FP8 weights are 2.5 TB and NVIDIA's NVFP4 build is 1.44 TB before any KV cache. vLLM, SGLang and TokenSpeed have official recipes. For most teams, Together, DeepInfra, Novita and other hosts at $2 / $6 are simpler.
For most workloads, yes: it is 20% cheaper, doubles max output, adds video input and scores 11 points higher on Artificial Analysis's index (open-weight edition), and Alibaba now lists Qwen3.7-Max as legacy. Stay on 3.7-Max only if raw speed matters more than capability; it streams about five times faster.
The launch table is Alibaba-run, often on in-house benchmarks or with harness settings that differ from competitors'. Independent LMArena rankings (text 1481, web development 6th, vision 2nd) and an Artificial Analysis index of 40 confirm frontier-level quality, so validate on your own tasks before relying on specific margins.
Requests are stored in the region you call (Beijing, Singapore, Frankfurt, Virginia, Tokyo or Hong Kong), but Global-scope regions schedule inference worldwide. Qwen Cloud moderates all inputs and outputs and does not state a training policy on its data-security page, so check the service terms or self-host for regulated data.
The closest open-weight rival: 2.8T parameters, native vision, 1M context. Kimi leads on Artificial Analysis's index (44 vs 40) and LMArena text coding (1538 vs 1522) and ties on the web-development board (1674 vs 1671, with Qwen's 0902 snapshot at 1681). Qwen3.8-Max wins on price ($2/$6 against $3/$15) and on vision, where it ranks second on LMArena. Kimi's license triggers a separate agreement at a lower bar (Model-as-a-Service operators above US$20M revenue) but does not cover coding or office assistants.
Z.ai's open-weight flagship is cheaper ($1.40/$4.40) and more permissive: only Model-as-a-Service operators above US$10 billion revenue must pass a security review. LMArena text scores are level (1483 vs 1481). GLM-5.3 is text-only with thinking always on, while Qwen3.8-Max adds image and video input and leads the web-development board by a wide margin (1671 vs 1614).
The Western flagship Alibaba benchmarks against. On Alibaba's own table Sol leads Terminal-Bench 2.1 (88.8 vs 86.6), GPQA Diamond (94.1 vs 92.6) and HLE (47.2 vs 43.6), while Qwen leads SWE-bench Pro, PaperBench, IFBench and OSWorld-Verified. LMArena text is a tie (1484 vs 1481); Qwen is ahead on web development and vision. Sol offers a 50% batch discount and deeper governance, at $4/$20 promotional pricing against $2/$6, with no open weights.
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Last verified 2026-09-21